Jeremy had a presentation today about Fan Subtitle rights. He covered mostly about japanese anime and said that befor the digital age creators of the anime didnt mind because it was free advertisement, but once the internet came along and things were much easier to download and spread, people who created these anime’s were losing money. Jeremy asked me at the very end what I felt about “Fansubs” and I didnt have time to fully answer him.
Jeremy, I think that it is wrong if you fansub a flick and send it to someone else or make it available to someone else. But if you feel the need to translate it for your own personal use I dont see why that would be a problem especially if you are just editing the copy that you already purchased.
Also I think that all this pirating stuff can stop if they just make a technology that can block DvD’s and CD’s from being copied in the first place. Some kind of coding on the CD or DvD that prevents machine’s from Dubbing. If the coding is overidden or by-passed then the info on the DVD or CD should get erased automatically. Thats just what I think… I mean with all the technology in the world today and we cant prevent people from pirating?? But we can sure as hell make pirating possible? doesnt make any sense! Why these big companies dont use their money to prevent pirating is beyond me…
Thanks Jeremy for your impressive prez
March 14, 2012
mraplus
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6 responses to “Jeremy’s Prez”
jmster88
March 14th, 2012 at 20:30
You bring up a good point, but is it still wrong if the series is not licensed outside of Japan? It’s not like the creators are losing any money from fansubs in other countries since the series is not being sold there anyway. In fact, a person watching a unlicensed series fansubbed could actually MAKE money for the creators through the sales of imported goods and DVDs. ( I got many of my DVDs through personal import sites.)
And the companies ARE trying to prevent people from pirating their CDs and DVDs through the use of copy protections they place on them. However, according to US law (the “fair use” clause I mentioned), a person has the right to remove copy protection on anything they legally own in order to make a copy for their own personal use.
If the companies tried to stop people from removing the protection, they would be violating people’s right to make a backup for themselves, in case something happened to their original disc.
This is why copy protection removers continue to exist, and why a scenario like you described with the DVD being erased when protection is removed would be illegal and a violation of people’s rights.
It’s also the reason that jailbreaking iPhones was deemed legal by the courts, since you are allowed to do anything you want with a device you purchased and own.
In the end, it’s the people who have no moral judgement in distributing what’s supposed to be their “personal copy” to others who never bought it.
mraplus
March 16th, 2012 at 11:35
If the creators wanted it subtitled dont you think they have the right to make that so? Isnt it stealing to distribute art that you didnt create?
jmster88
March 16th, 2012 at 17:45
Yes, I do believe they have the right to do so. However, the creators often don’t know if it would sell well in other countries until after fansubs have proved it is popular there, or often aren’t even thinking about audiences outside of Japan.
And technically, I’m creating the translation, so it’s my own work. So I’m stealing my own work? No…
mraplus
March 17th, 2012 at 11:41
Jeremy, but you didnt create the animation, and like i said, if you are not planning on selling the translated version or distributing it i see no problem with that. But if you make prfit off somebody elses work thats bad.
lockmantuj
March 18th, 2012 at 00:14
I think this is a fascinating discussion that’s been sparked by Jeremy’s presentation. I think I am sympathetic to Jeremy’s position here. But Nick, your concern for the owners of the original material shouldn’t be ignored or easily dismissed.
mraplus
March 18th, 2012 at 17:35
I understand what he wants, but if people are pirating thats BULL $#&%
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